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6-18-2006 @ 2:50AM
In response to the FLAT OUT STUPID Big Steve and TRULY IGNORANT "Lwroy Jenkins" said...
Big Steve - did you actually read my “thesis” or did you breeze through it? Or are you just that stupid? Do you actually use your brain when you prepared your response “thesis”? I guess the real question is did you read everyone's comments or just mine? I not only addressed the comment by Frederic Rouzaud clearly, I addressed other comments listed above. (So no one directly spelled their race, except you and I, huh? I beg to differ.) The comments above stated “playing the race card” repeatedly - which is typically a statement that whites say after a black person responds to them making some grossly offensive statements against blacks. So I responded (and assumed they were white). By the way, you can only play a card you are dealt! Also, one person said they were not anti-black, which leads me to believe they are not black. Another person angrily stated Jay-Z was racist & made comments about white people, which leads me to believe they are white. Comments above generalized all hip-hop as degrading to women (which also leads me to believe they are white, or at least non-black, as no hip-hop/black person would make such a grossly inaccurate statement), which is incorrect. So I mentioned that it is incorrect and pointed out other genres that do degrade women. Is it right to degrade women? Obviously I don’t think that because I am a woman and I clearly stated that I don’t agree above. My point was that Frederic Rouzaud did not call out other avenues that women are disrespected in, so obviously it is something else about the hip-hop/black culture that bothers him (like our skin color). It was stated above that Jay-Z deserves for people not to want to be associated with him because of negative things he may (/may not) have done in the past, so I commented that everything is not negative about him.
Of all the courses you mentioned you’ve taken, I did not see reading comprehension listed, which you must have missed. You lack understanding of why I made the comments and also the black culture. You may have took some courses, read a book, but you have never been black. And I quote you - “Hip-hop and the black community are not synonymous.” I never said they were, but I said they basically are, which they are. And so did you…wasn’t every artist you mentioned black? Real good way to prove your argument, by in fact proving mine. You can not tell Jay-Z or me how to feel when someone makes a derogatory comment about our culture.
I’m petty name calling? I was name clearly up for my culture and Jay-Z. No, I didn’t call people that disagree with me racist white people. I pointed out that racist white people make derogatory comments, like that of Frederic Rouzaud, about blacks for several reasons (listed in my last comment). You have no idea what it feels like as a black person to be down-talked, disrespected and stereotyped with no repercussions…uh probably because you are NOT black and you have never been treated poorly simply because you are black. I have and so has Jay-Z. If you read everything I wrote I said clearly that you, I, nor anyone has the right to tell Jay-Z how he felt when he read/heard the comments. You still don’t have that right. Jay-Z took hip-hip culture as black culture because it IS basically synonymous and I feel/know most every black (and most non-blacks!) would agree with that. If I said heavy metal culture, most would think I meant white culture or was at least referring to white people.
The only thing I have ever read that was romanticized about hip-hop culture, was what you said…because when you are romancing someone you usually are blind to whatever you choose to blind to about them. You choose to ignore that hip-hop culture is by and far regarded and related to black culture (because it is basically the same thing)…because you relate yourself with the hip-hop culture (you said yourself you did and were offended by Jay-Z stating that hip-hop only pertains to blacks). I have no right to tell you not to be offended by Jay-Z’s comments about what you feel is your culture, just like you have no right to tell me and Jay-Z not to be offended by what was said about our culture.
Could your real issue be that you are not widely regarding with hip-hop culture? If you truly are part of hip-hop culture, shouldn’t you yourself be offended that Frederic Rouzaud made such degrading comments about YOUR culture? Do you truly feel like part of the culture or are you feeling left out? YOU IGNORED the real issue, not I. Instead of saying if you felt it was justified of Jay-Z to boycott Cristal, you used this space to rant on how blacks and hip-hop are not same, but you and hip-hop are. YOU BROUGHT up race, as did most of the comments on this page. It is hard NOT to mention race, but you are calling me out…how hypocritical and ironic. The statements made by Frederic Rouzaud brought up race and his comments/Jay-Z’s reaction are what we’re discussing. Or what we are supposed to be discussing, but after reading two of your blogs, I still have no idea what your opinion is on the boycott/comments made by Frederic Rouzaud. All I know about you is: how you feel about hip-hop not being the same as black, how you feel about Jay-Z’s comments and that you are a person that likes to use “big, smart” words to cover up the fact you are completing ignoring the subject at hand and have no reading comprehension skills. Ironically, you try to imply I am ignorant, immature and/or unintelligent for making comments addressing the subject at hand and truly you yourself are ignorant, immature, and unintelligent.
One thing is for certain – I can not call you racist against blacks for disagreeing with me (you said I called everyone racist who didn’t agree with me) on the subject at hand, BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR OPINION IS EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES TO RACE MATTERS!! Get a clue, a brain and a dictionary for 6th graders. If you at least had the dictionary, you could have used fewer words TRYING to sound intelligent and addressed the real issue at hand, instead of going on and on about how YOU feel blacks shouldn’t claim what is theirs (hip-hop culture). And I wouldn’t have to show everyone reading this that you where trying to impress them by pretending to be smart. Your vocabulary says you have read a book or two in your day (probably not about the origin of hip-hop though!), but your logic, argument, comprehension level, ability to follow a topic and all of your comments let me know you are flat out stupid.
To “Lwroy Jenkins”…Where the hell do you get off calling rap MILLIONARES, which in fact makes them the wealthy elite, no class street thugs? How do you know what they appreciate? You’ve probably never tasted Cristal yourself, probably can’t pronounce it, and obviously are ignorant. Maybe you were trying to be funny, but you didn’t succeed. Take your bitter (why be bent out of shape that rappers are millionaires?) ho ass and eat a d*ck. I would be very happy if I wasn’t on the same message board with your stupid ho ass. You have no useful comments to make.
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